Scientology Topic: Beginning thoughts

Article #191
Subject: Beginning thoughts
Author: Andrew W. Harrell
Posted: 2/14/2013 02:48:02 PM

Some thoughts about topics for discussions about Scientologists and with
Scientologists:



To witness and serve Truth, by slowing ourselves down, listening to others,
thinking as they think, is a great and noble purpose for us all.

Human “awareness of awareness” or “knowing about knowing” with or without
God’s help are part of this process.



When we are witnesses of Truth this way [as above whether we believe in God
or not], God has room to be the One who sees ourselves in Him and Him in us.
You can count on it.



The English empiricists, Locke and Hume in particular got stuck in trying to
explain who they were as a “self’ in terms of how empirical evidence on a
blank slate can cause conditions which only occur as contiguously associated
in locations in empirical space time.



We now know a couple of hundreds years later after the invention of Non-
Euclidean geometries one way that this is possible. Angels [our spiritual
selves what scientologists call Thetans] occupy locations in space and time.
If it is compactified (folded in on itself) two or more of them can be there
at the same location. So if this is possible then we can have divine
communication and hence causality between God and us inside of us.



Even if it is true that “AM I” [our personal selves] wrong. It is still true
for those who believe...that "I AM the eternal God" and God is A Father, A
Son, A Holy Spirit inside us....for underneath are the everlasting arms [from
the Book of Genesis Chapter 31 I believe].



I have heard some Scientologists say that “we don’t believe that it is
possible to know God”. But, my friends, you must admit that it is still
possible for God to know this for us [that He or She exists]



Who is “ourself”. Memories you say, but they are not “you” and they could
well be “me”. So if language doesn’t have any meaning at all nothing can be
real for us.



Human beings being in a state or unavoidable state of condition of making
mistakes and hence hurting ourselves and others if we are not careful need
the help of a higher power is self-existent and can create in an eternal
realm.



Hence God He or She in order to being an eternal God must be self-existent,
omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent and in order to be himself an “Operating
Thetan” in the eternal realms have the attributes of

1) Absolute consciousness

2) Absolute love

3) Absolute intelligence

4) Absolute will

5) Absolute action



And, therefore must have higher powers than us humans [who will forever be
subject to mistakes because of our human condition], He or She or It can go
forward and backward in time in order to save, redeem, justify, sanctify our
spirits and souls therefore is more than just us or an artifact constructed
by us.



The absolute Truth that is in Him or Her as A Father, A Son, A Holy Spirit
can manifest itself as a correspondence between Absolute being in at least
(5 2) [pairings of above attributes] x 2 [forward and backward in time] = 240
ways.



But, faith is a bridge for our memories that with God's help defines our
eternal personal self, past, present, future.

When human faith is a bridge with God’s help then it is a bridge
between “substance of things hoped for”[our divine self] and the “evidence of
things not seen” [God’s witness to our eternally].





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Article #279
Subject: Effects of these different beliefs on Mr. Hubbard's methods of healing
Author: Andrew W. Harrell
Posted: 2/24/2016 04:49:14 PM

Many of the steps in Mr. Hubbard’s* SLP 3, 5, 8 (six levels of processing…
standard operating procedure for auditors trying to help pre-clears) are the
same as in Pantajali’s eight steps of contemplative prayer in Patanjali’s
sutras** on meditation and contemplative prayer (If you skip Patanjali’s
first two steps concerning ethics, which Mr. Hubbard treats as a separate
topic…..then go to step #3 existence of a static…fixed body posture for the
spirit to meditate in, 4) control breathing… this step is not emphasized much
in Mr. Hubbard’s procedure, #5 fixation or focusing on some object or spirit
while withdrawing the senses or dharana, exteriorization, viewpoint of
dimension, concentrated thought on the facsimile #6 running the facsimile
with its factors… this is similar to the flowing meditation dhyana step in
Patanjali, #7 running the black negative energy and white positive energy
aspects of the thinking, #8 realizing the ARC or affinity reality
communication of the thetan’s transforming itself into something betterwhich
… this is similar to the four-fold discrimination sampragnata samadhi
[truthful realization of thought] or samadhi with seed, asampragnata or
without seed [truthful nirvana or extinguishing of negative factors in the
thought time-line] , nirvitarka [with words] and [without words] of the
realized yogi’s study).

References:
*Fundamentals of Thought
Scientology 88
Scientology 8800
** see our other discussion group subdirectory for a much more detailed
discussion of Patanjali’s sutras.


But, there is one big difference between Christian Jewish contemplative
prayer and these SOPs. The effect of asking God’s will to be done in the
Lord’s prayer is to affirm that the viewpoint of dimension from which we ask
the truth we are affirming to be postulated is that of God’s and not our own.
Something which common sense tells us can make a big difference in how things
come out.

So, I would say a Christian Jew could benefit from studying Mr. Hubbard's
prayer methods but he or she definitely need to keep in mind that God needs
us to help Him or Her solve our problems but not try to do it all ourselves.

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